QOTD: Why Are People Who Vape Worse Than Vegans? [Video]

Submitted by: fancylad 1 year ago Funny
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Male 1,206
As a non-smoker, being around people that vape is just as annoying as people that smoke cigarettes. The exhaled vapor is just as disgusting as cig smoke, and a lot of vapers are so rude they blow it right in your face / around your head, I guess because they figure it's not cig smoke so it's okay. I couldn't give a rat's ass about why you vape. Honestly, I don't care. I choose not to, so why should I be forced to breath that junk? Just the two cents from an old man. Now get off my lawn.
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Male 128
Vapers are trendy, vegans are fatties who lack conviction to follow a responsible diet/exercise program so turned to abnigation
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Male 1,877
To those who are trying to quit through vaping. From someone who has been through 3 attempts, cold turkey is the only method that stuck. I tried the weening, lasted 2 years. Tried the casual/drinking only smoking, lasted a year. Cold turkey for 3 and don't have the cravings I did with the other methods. I think it comes down to mentally beating the physical addiction finally broke the habit.
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Male 280
@ForSquirel YOU can. and you are then probably a better person than me and millions that can't, some people quit drinking without AA some stop gambling cold turkey. But not everyone can. Government is actively trying to ban Vaping depriving these people of a viable alternative. (Because Taxes, I can explain if you like) So while you are worthy of admiration because of your willpower and your ability to run marathons you should not dismiss a viable option for those who are less strong willed as you are. BTW Nicotine is an amazing legal drug that has manageable and little side effects, specially for stress relief and concentration. Vaping is a safER delivery method for it, not a lifestyle.
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Male 139
It is not all about will power either. Some people are more genetically inclined, I think, to be more likely to become addicted to certain substances. Some people will become alcoholics at the same level of consumption as others who won't, and its not just because of a lack of will-power. Its also about how chemical affect the individual brain, serotonin levels, and other factors. For those who don't know, nicotine is a substance that is more addictive than many, if not all, illegal drugs. The problem is that it is so much more subtle because it doesn't have the side effects and any immediate consequence. Its probably not even the cause of cancer nearly as much as the chemicals that are put in cigarettes or even in the vape juice. One has not broken the addiction to nicotine by vaping (unless they have moved to the 0% nicotine juice), but they have reduced the number of chemicals they are inhaling from 200+ down to just several. Of course, we don't yet know the long term effects of those few chemical--they may be terrible, or there may not be any problems. Still, I'd think vaping is unquestionably safer. It can be a good method of quitting, just as nicotine gum can help some people. Of course you have to want to quit no matter what. I have quit cigarettes 3 times now. First time was cold-turkey, second time, I cut back slowly then quit. Both of those times I lasted 6 months before starting again (for really stupid reasons). I have been using the e-cigarette for about a year now and have very slowly been cutting back. I started at 24mg (I was a 2 pack a day smoker) and I'm down to 12mg now, soon to be 6. So it is helping me, and it can help others too, but like has been said, someone really has to want to, otherwise it won't happen.
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Male 2,390
You can quit without vaping.. no need for all the the brew haha.. #VapingLivesMatter to someone... I kicked the habit cold turkey pissing off everyone who knew me.. it wasn't easy but I knew it wouldn't be.. I'm a better person because of it. Had Vaping been around I don't think I would have done it.. just doesn't seem like a viable option.. sorta like drinking a less alcoholic beer. But what do I know? I kicked the habit, raised my kids, and have run marathons since then.
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Male 835
Can you really use a vaper to quit smoking? I'm not a regular smoker, just a cigar (as well as, ahem, other things) on occasion and I may go for a week or more without one sometimes. Having said that, I'm not hooked on nicotine, so I can't say that I know what its like to try to quit. But, to my original question, I know a lot of people who started vaping to quit cigarettes (my brother is one of them), but either still smoke cigarettes (my brother is one of those), or are now hooked on the vaper. I do not know, or even know of, one person that I would call a successful quitter due to vaping. Putting down cigarettes just to become hooked on a vaper is no more a successful quit than putting down cigarettes to start dipping. I know, vaping is supposed to be safer than tobacco use, but do we really know yet? Remember, asbestos was thought to be safe for many years after its use was started. It was only in the later years of its use that related health problems started to appear. Either way, I still don't have a personal problem with vaping, per se. If you want to, please, carry on. My problem comes with those who feel like they need to wave the fact that they vape front of everyone else's face, and demand to be acknowledged for doing it. Then get irate with you when you don't compliment them on their gear, what flavor they are using, or the huge clouds of vapor they are able to blow out. Personally, I find the whole "vaping just to vape" thing extremely ridiculous. If you are actually using it to stop smoking, great! Otherwise, what's the point? Trying to out do someone else on who can blow out the biggest cloud of vapor? Pretty childish. Besides that, some of the liquids and their resultant vapor really stinks to me. My nose is fairly sensitive, and what most other people think smells good (perfume, cologne, air fresheners, etc) is, for lack of a better way to put this, fairly "screaming" to my nose. When I smell most "floral scent" air fresheners and such, they smell to me like a bunch of flowers, amplified 10,000 times over, and its very overpowering to me. Vaper liquids are like that to me. Some of them smell so cloyingly sweet to me that it almost makes me gag. If you want to vape, feel free. Free to take it outside!
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Male 4,029
Yea, I've had friends quit cigarettes by vaping, that part is definitely true.
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Male 280
I don't know how long you have to be off cigarettes to say you successfully quit smoking, I have been off cigarettes for 3.5 years my mom 4 years and my wife 2 years. My neighbor about a year and my mom's best friend about 5 years. All using e-cigarettes. So as a proof of concept yes I think it can be done. Success rate is another thing. I can tell you that the official success rate (over a year without any tobacco) for patches is from 5 to 10% and front nicotine gum about 5%, psychological treatment around 15%. Just quitting with willpower is about 7%. I suspect E-cigarettes would be higher than that but the numbers right now I think are inflated, some sources cite it at over 30% but they are biased in favor of vaping. Check this out for an unbiased study: http://www.addictionjournal.org/press-releases/e-cigarette-use-for-quitting-smoking-is-associated-with-improved-success-rates- I do not think Vaping is SAFE, nor do most vaping advocates. However, there is strong evidence from scientific studies that it is SAFER than conventional cigarettes. specifically, because of the chemicals released at the temperatures needed for combustion (this includes Cigars). TLDR: This link addresses both your concerns https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/e-cigarettes-an-evidence-update
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Male 835
In my opinion, if you put cigarettes down only to trade them for a vaper, you are still hooked. It doesn't matter if you have been off cigarettes for 20 years; if you are still on a vaper, and you still "need" it, you are still hooked! You just traded one addiction for another. A possibly safer addiction, but still an addiction. That was my point when i said that i don't know anyone who has "successfully" quit with a vaper. I just hope, for all our sakes, that the few chemicals in vape liquid don't turn out to be even more harmful than the hundreds of chemicals combined in tobacco smoke. As I said before, remember the example of asbestos. Even worse, remember what happened with Thalidomide! There is a classic example of thousands rushing into something before it was fully understood how safe/unsafe it was! Even scarier, think of all the years of trials and testing that the FDA put Thalidomide through before it was deemed "safe", and then it was dispensed by doctors! To my knowledge, if vape liquid has even been through FDA testing, it was only a casual observation, not full-on testing, the manufacture of it is unregulated, and you can buy it on any street corner!
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Male 1,252
As a pack a day for 15 years and successfully ended I swear. to . whatever. that 80% of the addiction is the tobacco companies and everyone you know telling you you are going to feel like sh%t when you quit, 20% is the social 'security blanket' you get from it, something to do, a reason to be.. its all self deluded hypnosis. Once you want to quit...it is easy.. convincing yourself that you want to is the real battle... vaping like this guy is an easy means to accept the lie to oneself about wanting to quit. That said there are cravings because you do want the things it provided. As for recreational users..I still dont want that shit blowing in my face anymore than I want exhaust fumes or halitosis, absolutely take that shit somewhere else..people that HAVE quit certainly dont appreciate you pinging the jones for us. Thanks for that. Gross.
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Male 139
Of course there are casual people who vape. I am one. It is a means of not smoking the more harmful cigarettes and slowly moving toward breaking the nicotine addiction. It is not something that I take any kind of pride in. It is not a style thing, or trying to look cool. Don't just assume everyone who does something has taken it to the ignorant extreme. Still, I don't really think of it as "vaping", but just an extension of smoking, which again, is not something to be proud of, just a stupid addiction. Really though, I'm with you on vaping culture. I know people who started vaping just to be "cool" who weren't even smoker before. I find that to be idiotic.
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Male 280
Ohh and please an edit button, or I should have read through my rambling before I posted... But in any case, I'm not an advocate or a spokesperson for vaping but I am an expert as I have done ton of research so in case anyone reading this have specific questions on vaping or nicotine please post them and I will answer them truthfully, I promise.
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Male 280
@Fancylad Seriously why do we bother you? Serious question. I understand how Vegans are annoying seeing as they would like you to stop eating meat, and shame you for eating meat, or even honey and imposing vegan meals when you eat together etc., etc. How is that comparable to vapers. All the Vaping activism is so politicians let us continue to Vape, we don't want the whole world to vape or impose you to vape for ethical reasons or anything. We just want the right to continue vaping which politicians, tobacco and pharma companies what to outlaw. I personally know Vaping saved my life and if it was outlawed tomorrow I would either break the law or smoke again. That is how bad my nicotine addiction is. I smoked 2 packs a day, and I couldn’t stop, I tried. And I know millions of wonderful people just stopped smoking I envy them, I couldn’t, when I was 22 I kicked a cocaine habit, a 7 year addiction that towards the end was a more than a gram a day every day, after a week bender I just stopped, I took measures like distance myself from the people I hanged out with and others but in essence I just stopped, yes It was hard, especially on certain social situations and to this day 15 years later I still get a bit of a tingling craving with certain smells and when I drink, But haven’t touched the stuff since. I don’t have a superior discipline or will power I was just able to kick that habit… I couldn’t with cigarettes. However, on September 15 2012 I got my first e-cogitate and have not smoked a single tobacco cigarette since, my sense of smell is back I can run, I don’t get winded, food tastes awesome, I have better sex both in stamina and hmmm… other aspects, I don’t stink etc. And I can enjoy my nicotine fix with my coffee, when working, when stressed, when I drink, as a pick me up when I’m tired, to focus, and let me tell you as a stimulant it works and I love it. So my question Fancy, how does any of that bother you? Or annoy you?
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Male 5,620
TL,DR. But seriously, the length of your post is one of the reasons vapers come off as asshats.
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Male 4,029
When I worked in sales lots of people would vape. They were simply all the stressed out cigarette smokers, but they didn't want to sit down with a client and smell like smoke.
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Male 1,877
@fancylad IDK myself. I'm an ex-smoker, who would smoke again tomorrow if there was a cure for cancer. I've tried almost every drug out there, and nicotine delivered through inhaling flaming dried tobacco leaves is the greatest drug ever (technically I still smoke...but it's not tobacco ;) I think it has something to do with the feel of that weight of smoke in your mouth, in your lungs...the exhale...AAAAHHHH...Now I need a cigarette...but no, I actually beat it after 3 tries. Never vaped, but by the look of the exhale, I'd say it's pretty satisfying.
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Male 20,061
I'm 100 percent serious about the question. Why are people so into vaping? It's like this weird, defensive sub-culture that are really cemented in their "vape life" convictions. Are they using it for smoking weed? So many questions...
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