Australia Considers Banning Unvaccinated Kids From Childcare Centers

Submitted by: fancylad 1 week ago News & Politics

Some parts of Australia already have a "no jab, no play" laws, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants it to be a nationwide legislation.

This would mean that unvaccinated kids would not be permitted to enter any facilities where other kids could get infected, like schools and childcare centers. A potentially huge blow against anti-vaxxers.

"this is not a theoretical exercise -- this is life and death," Turnbull said in a report from the BBC. "If a parent says, 'I'm not going to vaccinate my child,' they are not simply putting their child at risk, they are putting everybody else’s children at risk, too."
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Female 4,355
Australia has a nasty habit of completely ignoring human rights in a mad stampede to be a totalitarian dictatorship#whiteaustraliapolicy#allthosepooraborigonals#islands thathousereffugeesininhumancondtitions. Never mind the argument of whether vaccination is or is not dangerous (cause that's such a huge rabbit hole to dive down, and most people can't be bothered with how uncomfortable peeling back layers off cognitive dissidence makes them feel...) the real issue here is the fact that it is against human rights to force medication or medical treatment on individuals. Can we talk about for a moment how the Australian prime Ministers wife is the chairwoman of a vaccine manufactuor?
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Male 318
"It's mandatory" - OK to say.
"It's voluntary" - OK to say.
"It's voluntary, but if you don't, we punish you!" - not acceptable.

PS: When I got my refreshment shot, the nurse gave me an A4 sheet, small print, describing all the diseases you can be vaccinated against. Also the vaccine was not filled into the form until after I had to sign. That's called "well-informed agreement" ... is anybody asking why people don't trust in vaccination? Because that's why.
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Male 1,801
i bet this is how they'll introduce the chip too.

"if your kid doesn't have a chip in their forehead or hand to buy and sell the corporate goods they want,  they can't join the other kids and they are an outcast.  Society has determined its easier for everyone if they get this chip, and if parents dont want to chip themselves or their kids, they will not be able to take part in our society"

yay 'herd menality', lol - suckers!
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There was an anti-vaxxer childcare place in Melbourne that used that fact as a marketing point. From memory it had to shut down a couple of years ago when measles ripped through it.
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Male 979
barry9a I vaguely remember this...iirc, that was the impetus for Victoria to push for compulsory immunisation for enrollment In child-care centres.

In South Australia, there's been a push to make it compolsury for a while, but the state government has been dragging it's feet, so it would be good to get legislation at the federal level to standardise it. 
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Female 7,842
Good. fed up with people talking out their arses- its like those fucking cockwombles who use homeopathy rather than vaccinate their dogs.... kill yourself- but not your children or animals.
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Male 194
My kid can't bring peanut butter to school to "protect" yours. Seems only fair that yours cannot bring deadly measles to school to protect mine.
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Male 318
m3dm3d Also you shouldn't be allowed to drive to school either - no heli-moms, no teachers. Everybody has to go by bus.
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Male 785
m3dm3d ^THIS^
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Male 19,981
m3dm3d This should be a bumpersticker handed out to parents on the first day of school, instead of those "My Child Made Honor Roll" stickers.
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Male 476
If vaccination works - what harm can come to the vaccinated children from being around non-vaccinated children?
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Male 620
10Bears Immunocompromised children will still be at risk as well as other children who did not get vaccinated for whatever reason. Once you have too many you get a cluster where the children who had the vaccine but did not get the response or had the vaccine and had a weak immune system will have a higher level of exposure and risk. 

PS don't downvote just because of a question.
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Male 7,497
10Bears Vaccinations are not 100% effective.  So there will always be a certain amount of people of a population that is not immune to a disease.  The more people that are vaccinated the less likely a disease is to gain a foothold.  

The greater the proportion of individuals in a community who are immune, the smaller the probability that those who are not immune will come into contact with an infectious individual.  With a high enough vaccination rate, that probability can be reduced to almost zero. 

There is a threshold, a point where enough of a population are vaccinated that a disease is eradicated.

Adding people to the population who intentionally are not vaccinated increased the possibility of the non-immune coming into contact with the disease.
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Male 4,372
megrendel Plus that kid might encounter others outside of school who were not vaccinated or could not be vaccinated due to cancers or other illnesses
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Male 7,497
thezigrat Correct, should have include those who can not take vaccinations due to various conditions.
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Male 500
10Bears It's called herd immunity. Look it up.
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Male 476
profworm Can you provide me a pertinent link?
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Male 620
10Bears Wiki has a simple article on it as well as plentiful links at the bottom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
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Male 476
marsii An interesting read - but doesn't really answer my comment.
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Male 7,960
Great now all Australians are going to be Autistic. Way to go government.
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Male 620
holygod they could stand to be a little more artistic.
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Male 4,372
holygod you mean they're not already? (J/K folks)
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Male 19,981
holygod There's a great joke in there I'm not going to touch with a 10-foot pole.
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Male 4,372
fancylad I doed it
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Male 200
holygod haha.. well better autistic than dead
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